I would love to own a GA Precision or Surgeon rifle someday but this will have to do for now. First, the .308 is a more powerful round until well beyond what could be considered an ethical hunting range. My first Ruger was their Model 77 in .300 Win Mag, and it was a shooter no doubt about it and to this day, I cant remember if I sold or traded it for something else. Out of the box, 90 minutes on the range with a $109 scope. I get it: each person can use their guns for whatever application they want. After barrel breakin, it is a consistent half inch gun out to 800 yards. Keep in mind that I have attended a precision rifle match once in my life. I wanted to make sure I was giving it my best effort. I still dont understand why this is better/worth ~$300 more than a ~$900 DPMS AR-10 that can shoot ~1 moa. That model rifle earlier reviewed in 6.5 Creed. Thats a lot of firepower available if youre sniping or counter-sniping. They cut the barrel down with a chop saw so no groups were shot for accuracy but they did measure ES and SD with their chronograph which is a good measure of potential accuracy. Ruger has been producing some outstanding bolt-action hunting rifles for as long as I can remember and Im old, real old so I can remember a long time back. had about 1\2 min. ? Many parts changed. Cmon Tylerrecoil gripes? I have a RPR in 308 Win and its accuracy amazes me everytime I shoot it. Two of his other novels have also been best New York Times bestsellers. So this was a good assortment for running through this Ruger. All offer ambidextrous manual safeties and are a great option for an affordable long-range rifle. You can read it all on the Ruger web site. There is a reason why custom barrels cost more than factory ones, and there is a reason why serious competitors shoot them exclusively. No its not an RPR, and you actually have to put in a little work to get it, but that same 10 pound gun is now an accurate action mounted/torqued in an all aluminum chassis and will perform as good, if not better than the RPR. Im glad I bought it! Web.308 Win with 1:10 RH twist, 20 in (51 cm) barrel, weighing 9.8 lb (4.4 kg) [3] 6mm Creedmoor with a 1:7.7 RH twist, 24 in (61 cm) barrel, weighing 10.8 lb (4.9 kg) [4] Youll need it with that short barrel. Heavy-contour (.875" at the muzzle) barrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Magnum Muzzle Brake with tunable compensator to effectively reduce recoil and muzzle Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. When will the madness end? Sub-2 MOA accuracy at 500 yards is still fitting five bullets inside the vital zone of anything on four legs that can feed a family of four, and well within the confines of a 10-inch diameter circle. There are lots of people, many of them my friends, who are DEEPLY invested in .308. Where this lack of weight manifests itself quite clearly is in the recoil department. I got a Remington 700 LTR, which also has a 20 barrel, but Im guessing it will probably be a better 800 yrd. I dont do much reloading these days, because I simply dont have the time. I am indeed a gun nut, that was disguised as a radio nut, who, to poor to buy another gun, bot radios instead. Those who have read my review of the 6.5 will know full how I feel about that gun. Free Targets and Target Tracker Shooting Logs! The Creedmoor is a good deer rifle, the Ought Six is for everything else. It was a Leupold Gold Ring variable power scopeconsidered a benchnmark for quality, to American shooters. Im now seeing them priced closer to $700, and even if you find a screaming deal, you still need to get it to your door. Folded Length: 31.60". They are virtually identical, but the Creedmoor is a tad faster, and because it is a modern rifle, and sold as a precision rifle, and factory ammunition is tailored for accuracy at long ranges, the rifle will likely be more accurate straight out of the box. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. They are OK up at 800 yds. Second, the Creedmore is just as powerful as the harder recoiling .308 downrange due to its higher BC. Now that Ruger has this rifle I see it as an ideal platform for a Scout. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Folded length is 31.60-inches and it is easy to fold the stock closed. Brand: Ruger. It takes every bit of 500 yards to for the Creedmore to catch up with the .308 energy wise, but theres two ways to look at that. As for this particular rifle, I do not know why anyone would be surprised that Ruger is turning out rifles with inconsistent accuracy. That guy did more for barrel length arguments than anyone ever. I am not personally familiar with the 308s as far as what they are capable of, but Ive never heard of anyone unable to get them to shoot easily under 1 MOA average with around .5 bests. Could it be that longer barrels produce better real-world results, especially past 100 yards? From their Black Hills Gold (hunting ammo) I had their 18-gr Barnes TSX, 168-gr Sierra TMK and their 175 grain Sierra TMK loads. Oversized bolt knob. I never intended it to be a 1000yrd shooter. and 900 it took me 15 rounds to get 2 on paper (barely) and that is a 6 ft. target! You could get an F-class Savage for about the same price. Send it my way Tom. Curious about bore diameter relating to weight and such, I pounded a French-press worth of coffee, and dusted off some underused math skills, and found that the change in bore diameter didnt matter one bit. At a certain point, .308 is .308 and bullet weight doesnt matter. WebRuger Precision Bolt Action Rifle in .308, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, .300 Win Mag and .338 Lapua Magnum calibers. The Creedmoor is a very nice package, and the available ammunition from Hornady is impressive with advertised ballistic coefficients approaching an amazing .7 However, if they offered it in .260 Remington, which I doubt they will, the top speeds would be greater, 50 to 100 fps faster at a lower pressures that may improve barrel life. I have liked the RPR since it came out, but it does have some short-comings. Id rather be kicked, than deafened! Another thing that I feel the need to point out, is that Sniper Rifle is another made up term by the anti-gun establishment, just like Assault Weapon. One more thing, we were all putting rounds on center of mass at the 600 yard range with those open sights. Thats surprising as .308 has a reputation as being an inherently accurate, consistent cartridge. Still working at longer distances of 350, 550 and 750 yards. I expect it will improve with a new 6.5CM barrel from Patriot Valley Arms. But they shouldnt be too disappointed in their results, if the thing will only shoot 1.5MOA with good ammo. Have topped it with a Vortex Viper PST 4-1650 on a LaRue mount. The Ruger American Rifle I tested a few months prior was rough in every way, shape, and form. Neither is it brush rifle or a truck gun. Nice review. A lot has to do with the ammunition, and all guns have their druthers some shoot great with green/yellow box hunting ammo, and some dont. Its more suited for what I want to do. There is no way to break in or lap such a thing. Some gave me groups a little bigger, and some groups ever smaller but not by much. I recently traded in my Ruger RPR .308 because of the excess weight and lack of accuracy (ie) 3/4MOA was the best I could get with Federal Gold Match) , for Rugers Magpul Hunter. Uh, the Czech ammo hit the plate over and over again using the same come-up data. I treated the .308 the same way, but I fed it a lot more variety in ammo, and it just never consistently performed for me. While this may not sound like a lot, it really is, when you are demanding all the accuracy you can get out of yourself and a rifle. Id go outside and yell at clouds, but today in Wyoming it is a low overcast, so it would be a pointless diatribe on my part in all directions. As these weight savings came from the muzzle end of things, the .308 version is much faster to shoulder and doesnt fatigue the support arm with offhand shooting. Its like buying a safari rifle and faulting it because it has too much recoil to shoot prairie dogs all day. Soin short Ruger will make a killing selling this silly looking thing that shoots about as good as a $400 pawn shop deer rifle. These are the base models, not the newer enhanced models Rugers also offering now, which are about $300 more. Thank you! Notify Me When Available. and Smithing. WebMedium-contour (.75" at the muzzle) threaded barrel with 5/8"-24 threads. I just think he deserves more credit for what he did to influence the industry. But I still did very well, all things considered. Like I told the owner of 2 of these guns who bought them for rentals at his range, he said they wouldnt shoot MOA, I said call Ruger, raise hell and send them back. Width: 3.30". Box 303 Alternatively, I spend quite a few days in the fall, winter, and early spring in and out of a truck or blind and on foot in search of whitetail, axis, and pigs. WRT the RPRs rattling safety selector, Ruger now has a free fix for it a spring that takes about a minute to install and solves the problem. The nice folks at Black Hills Ammunition have kept me in ammo for my articles for more than 27 years even during several ammo droughts, they still managed to get ammo into my hands for articles. I gave it four stars only because I couldnt give it 4.8. From the trigger to the patented multi-magazine interface (which functions interchangeably with AICS and M110/SR-25/DPMS/Magpul-style magazines and some M14 magazines) to its compatibility with the AR-15 platform and beyond, I have a really hard time dinging it much. My answer has always been the same, and I have built several of these for friends and family. Instead, we are talking about the Ruger Precision Rifle (RPR) and they come in several popular calibers. Length of Pull: 12" - 15.50". to ask. No ammunition is perfect though. I have the same rifle. The rifle for this review was provided by the Kentucky Gun Company. After a lot of shooting, I could probably produce groups as small as the 168-gr load, with the slightly heavier load in all honesty, I think in the end, you could really call it a tie between the rounds. These new ELD bullets have MUCH better physical characteristics than the 168 gr. Im not humping a 13 pound rifle to chase deer and pigs, so this new Ruger is a welcome sight. Youll see the old school vindicated. At 100 yards, no. And truthfully, I really do feel that in the hands of someone looking to optimize its accuracy, it could have done better. Youll also need to go get at least two magazines, and at the time this published, AICS mags were running $80/per. I forgot to say that I used 7.62 ammo. Barrels can be easily replaced by a competent gunsmith using AR-style wrenches and headspace gauges. Item Number: 22662. I was awarded best marksman in the military shooting the fn-c1 in 7.62 nato, rear peep, front blade. In 6.5 Creedmoor, follow up shots will be even quicker as the recoil is very mild, You should be able to see the hit and adjust and be ready to fire again. My 20 inch AR10 pushes my 155 grain hornaday OTM load at 2811 FPS and consistently holds 1.5 MOA. In any event, well all have to answer for our actions someday. It reminds me of the feminization of the pickup truck; carpets and power windows, air conditioning and most wont see anything dirty or scratchy in the bed. The Ruger SFAR (Small Frame Autoloading Rifle) cracked the code on producing an AR-10 that's as light as an AR-15. Couldnt close the bolt all the way so I couldnt fold stock and remove bolt to trouble shoot it. THe Ruger Precision Rifle, Purpose Built to Distance Itself from the Typical Long-Range Rifle. One gentleman suggested that a simple recrowning might fix some of the issues I saw, and frankly, its possible that a good cleaning would help. Even with a worn throat, it will do sub MOA. The 35% less recoil of the 6.5 Grendel as compared to the 6.5 Creedmoor, or full power 6.555, is about the same or less than in my heavier 6.555 sporterized and glass bedded M38. The Swedish Mauser tend to be accurate when they should not be, yet each one is different. Only the military can legally shoot down people at long range, and for nothing more sinister than wearing the wrong clothing. Extended trigger-reach AR-style grip and 45 reversible safety selector. It eked out a couple sub-MOA groups, so it passes the 1 MOA for $1,000 rule of thumb. However, it can get the job done. It has the added advantage that it is a common caliber round. Real World Pricing: ~$1,250. RPRNation.com has a nice list of upgrades and parts for this rifle. http://www.tcsa.org Tri-Cities Shootiing Association. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. My hand loads shoot 5-shot 0.5 MOA groups all day long. Many times, when they are busy, Ill step behind the counter to lend a hand with gun customers. Yet a scope would have to be mounted. I already have a great 155 grain load for my AR. Not all sniping is done at 1,000-yards, some is done as close as 100-yards, and even the lowly .22 LR rifle, can accomplish the task of being a sniper rifle, with just a 4X scope on it think about it. If I had to grab one of these and run though, I think Id still go for my late 70s Ruger M77 in 7mm Mag. Accuracy isnt all its cracked up to be. That applies to the .308, too, but there are a couple of minor differences related to barrel and handguard length and weight that justify a second review. Not as bad as shooting 3 1/2 goose loads out of a lightweight 12 gauge, but still noticeable. Accu-trigger and Accu-stock. When Nick wrote that review, he said street price was $650. But if youve got an .06, dont loose it, cause youve got more gun. That is impressive. The 6.5 creedmoor were factory rounds. All youre sacrificing by going to a shorter barrel is a loss of velocity. You dont want a short, handy barrel when youre trying to connect at 1000 yards. Im a bit surprised at the lack of accuracy. Lighter, shorter and is actually a 1/2MOA rifle. Jeff Quinn over at Gunblast described the Creedmore barrel as about 7/8 inch at the muzzle.
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