In the process, I thought I need to hold responsibility for that and I need to think about such things. "Of course, I can see why he is popular. Love & P1ece . So I am really curious. have beef with the word problematic. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! He was significantly larger. yet this hate is steeped more in theperceptions of them, rather than who they are. I want to become a person who thinks more righteoulsy, and make greater music. What the reactions were? Search up for more info). I don't particularly think that Leeteuk is a very. A/N: The next group is ATEEZ. Never seen anyone in kpop as openly anti-lgbt as Siwon. I guess it goes to show you your faves are problematic. If you would like to use all features of this site, it is mandatory to enable JavaScript. He is also a television host and a musical actor and is one of the first four Korean artists to appear on Chinese . Members Seungyoon and Jinwoo were invited to dance to the popular TikTok dance, ZeroTwo, during a game corner. The group had 13 members in the beginning, however, it split into subgroups eventually. i don't even hate them i just try to ignore them as much as possible, but it's true that i don't really like them since they have been so problematic. yeah, i was thinking specifically about how adversely people reacted when shindong interacted with wendy and april, as well as how fandoms seem to flip flop between loving and hating heechul for promoting their girl group faves. If someone is comfortable with the way they are and theyre actually happy with their body, then they should just be left alone. due to the purity/morality culture that's been permeating fandoms since circa 2010, there are "right" and "wrong things to align yourself with, and if you align yourself with the "wrong" people will have no qualms in reminding you of that. - Kangin did nothing wrong, i support him (He got kicked out of SuperJunior / was arrested in relation to a bar brawl assault case, followed by indictment for a DUI / also in 2016 he was indicted for a second DUI. Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. Map updates are paused. in a perfect world, yes, that would be the most legitimate reasoning. He built such an image on TV, but if he heard about school bullying, he would be like, 'Hyungnim, bring that f*cker here,' and slap them. , Just when I think I know the extent of this woman's creepiness, I keep learning more wtf, P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! they messed up, big time, the stuff they did was absolutely horrific and bad, but i believe people change. that's the only reason to continuously bring up "bad behavior" even if it occurred seven years ago. He wasnt meaning anything derogatory about it, just making an observation. Super junior is 15 years old. Making reservations isn't absolutely necessary as I noticed some groups or 2-4 people walk in. people are allowed to dislike things for whatever reason they want. K-Media Reveals Why BLACKPINK Has Slower Comebacks Compared To Other Groups, 'Most Chill Fandom' Shawols Burst in Anger After SM Did THIS to SHINee. Look, I'm not a SUJU or Shindong fan, but this is really not an issue. as long as they're behaving, let them stay (and this applies to everyone, regardless of age). Variety show Alcohol Street Fighter took down and re-uploaded an edited version of their video from YouTube after their MC, Super Junior's Heechul, fell under fire for a joke he had made on air.The issue started with an episode guest-starring boy group WINNER. *i can say this because i have been in this situation.kind of. The fact that Shindong can say this on public television and think that, its okay. they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, august 2020: for the dynamite live countdown, there was a tipi scene in the background, on a variety show namjoon joked about having second hand enjoyment to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs) but multiple people that have read or own the book have argued that there isnt a rape section or that there is because there was non consensual moments in the book, Most of their scandals can be found when searching super junior scandals or controversies, misogynist - a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women, fatphobic - the fear and/ or hatred of fat bodies, blackface - wearing makeup to imitate the appearance of a black person, culture appropriation - the unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices, ideads, etc. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy. , if there are any groups or their actions that I missed please let me know by replying or messaging me, youtube playlist with problematic idols actions, in the process of adding things they have done. There's some things some Super Junior members have done that can be considered problematic but this ain't one. the members have actually messed up and its great that people call them out for it, because thats how theyll learn but suju hasnt done anything that others havent. 568), (Ep. that's fine, it happens. So now we blaming idols for producers and casting choices. The fact that some fans have an issue with Taemin looking feminine tells more about them than the person who pointed it out in a non-insulting way Dont have an account yet? Is your Oppa among them, too? I agree that Shindong's comments about fat people should be dropped, it's been over 8 years now. 12, 58, 67, 115, 294, 366, 444, 575), [2011-2017] | [Guest] (Ep. Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. they've been my comfort band for half a decade now and will continue to do so, you never know, you might just enjoy their tunes lol. it's not lie that super junior are past their peak. Zoom in to see updated info. aren. Such wheeling and dealing is not respectable to begin with - and contradicts the menu. The only thing that makes sense is number 4. i mean sure i get that, but op literally replied stop being creepy and delulu to this exact post: There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking., Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. so what are you going to say that shindong was in the wrong to say that Taemin fit the concept is going for well ????? The other member I accidentally liked was Siwon who has publically struggled with his stance on gay marriage. However the food quality and portion size was excellent in relation to the price. That's so normal, we're human, Suju is human too. !, P1harmony|SHINee|ITZY|ONF|Monsta X|Purple Kiss|KARD|ONEWE|Pentagon|Billlie|NCT Dream|Ghost9|GOT7, op probably thinks being called androgynous is an insult bc they think its gross if you say that a man looks feminine since men are supposed to look masculine and nothing else lol. Pinky_Peachy. He should stop talk .being humble and . Edited once, last by fortuna: User has been warned (May 29th 2021). they re cancelled even i know they re kpop members here since 2005 so they re senior but they re impolite and honest. he literally said that his visual is so pretty that even when he's among female dancer it's hard to guess which one is prettier that's why it's hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl so i don't see what's the problem here, without mentionning that Taemin have always express the fact that in his music he wants to break the frontier between gender, that's why most of his concept are very androgynous, this " Taemin fans " aren't his fans if they can't understand that this comment of Shindong is proving that Taemin visual and musical identity is working like he wanted, Rocket Puncher Xenoglossy Armamenter ED.Hacker. What annoys me the most is those hating on Shindong for fatshaming, yet doing the same to him. And she is not 14 she was 16 or 17 at the time. but super junior are generally treated as old men. this is in no way shape of form to spread hate towards bts but to show the show kpop community that racism, cultural appropriation, cultural insensitivity, and colorism is a serious thing to this day. Amsterdam. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. Red Velvet Irene Net Worth 2023: How Rich Is Group's 'Daegu Ulzzang'? . He will be like, bro bring that fucking asshole and hell slap their faces. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! Suwon is some homophobic trash and leetuk is some crazy weird when it comes to young female idols (yet the industry still lets him work with them?!?). Powered by Invision Community. but the thing is, suju suffers from bandwagon hate from edgy kpop fans.the number 1 thing people use against them is the problematic card. though, i agree on the big bang point: there was a post i saw regarding them that also triggered this thread. of course people hate super junior, we all do. now, let me get this clear: this is not a "why you should like super junior" thread. yet the hate towards super junior, seems almost flippant. Since he showed up, the male idol immediately attracted the attention of viewers after people noticed that he was under the influence of alcohol. Who woulda though? MY victory, one SYNK DIVE. He first clarified that they were close to each other. In fact since op is so young they should learn more about worldly matters if they dont want to end up being a close-minded bigot down the line. Maybe he poorly phrased it, or perhaps the translation wasn't the best, as it tends to happen and lead to misunderstandings (I saw no Korean fans getting mad at this). ELF aren't active -- it's easy to hate on something if you know you won't get much shit for doing it. they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. For more information, please see our - Activation, budgeting & management of branded content, digital media, and paid social campaigns on VICE's channels across EMEA & APAC. My goal for 2017 is to be mature in many ways including my way of thinking. jan. 3 2017 namjoon went on vlive making a kind of new years resolution: Ive never thought my behaviors and my musical words could hurt others or cause inconvenience to others. march 15 2015 during an interview namjoon expressed his regret for using the term Westside Till I Die in the song If I Ruled The World. Being a first/second gen group is probably why they're considered problematic too. While talking about him being criticized for "not donating" just because he made it all in private, Heechul started cursing and calling them vulgar names. The idol also claimed that there's nothing wrong with the Bogyum's controversial signature phrase, "boiru" [bogyum + hairu (slang of 'hi')[ which is believed by many that it actually means "c*nt + hairu. Nevertheless, I get what he was trying to say, and it was a compliment. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl.- Shindong. most of the members are in their 20s and 30s, the peak of their youth. that lady's current issues to get a "reason". An androgynous guy who looks as pretty as the girls dancing with him. Lets meet surely after the resurrection. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent. This time, the idol wasn't only embroiled in one controversy, but a couple of sensitive issues. We all left very full and happy and have been trying to find Indonesian food close to home. If y'all want to hate them just do it, don't have involve. i made this powerpoint in 6 hours give or take bc i hate sending long ass tumblr posts with false info so i did my own research some stuff may be a little incorrect but its ok i got most of it because i am boy bossing ityes the music sucks i knowedit + my note:yes, i do still listen to suju, i believe that they have changed as people for the better of it. you support pedophiles, huh?" Be quiet and do your job and things go well. also having an homophobe in the group doesn't help to be honest. We all loved the food and think the flavor profile is similar to Thai food. thats my goals., june 12 2017 namjoon posted photos of his debut hair, june 27 2017 during bon voyage jin in his letter to jungkook said that his face had gotten a lot darker during the trip so once they got back to korea he would give him a sheet mask to fix his skin, sept 21 during a knowing bros episode namjoon said he would have looked good with locs and so would one fo the men on the show, sept 22 2017 during the mic drop comeback dna performance jhope had braids. Privacy Policy. 13-14), (Ep. There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking. young women don't like lecherous old women. Leeteuk has also expressed his disapproval of girls who are fat not once, but twice. This along with acts of black face and homophobia generates more publicity for this group, regardless if its bad because there is no such thing as bad publicity. I hope people stop giving them so attention soon. 188. 6 REASONS Super Junior Heechul Is Receiving Massive Hate in Korea Right Now Since he showed up, the male idol immediately attracted the attention of viewers after people noticed that he was. he had braids again the following day, and the following day after that, oct 11 2017 jhope had braids again for another mic drop performance, four days later jhope had braids again for a another mic drop performance, november 18 2017 when asked in an interview if there was anything they could tell their younger selves, what would it be, namjoon said please change your name and please change your hair, january 23 2018 in run episode 37, yoongi made fun of Native American names, also calling Native Americans Indians, may 25 2018 during a press conference namjoon announced theyd be changing the nword lyric in their song to different words so it wouldnt sound like the nword, april 2019 namjoon addressed but non-dune saying in a movie addressing the saying people used when kpop idols do problematic things and he is brought up to say much worse has been done before, september 26 2019 jhope for his chicken noodle soup remake had gel twits and he also commissioned the album art which used rastafarian colors and what looked to be like locs. ive seen people calling out suju members for shit their own bias groups said/did, who theyre so quick to forgive but for suju, after literally a decade + members apologies, people still drag them. Do you think ELF would still be here if Suju always stay silent all this time? You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Eminem. he is really known problematic idol at his age. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy. Likes. ", "Hes such a manly man (Alpha male) who really likes to exercise.". She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. Lets meet surely after the. Lastly, Heechul portrayed ASTRO Cha Eun Woo as an aggressive guy by describing him as a manly man (real man) who wouldn't just stand up when he saw someone's bullying. they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, on a variety show namjoon joked about getting off to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs), oct 11 2017 jhope had braids again for a mic drop performance. You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. At the Noodle Cart: Korean edition [May 2020]. The staff were reasonably friendly, the food however was a disgrace. From all the actual problematic things they once said they picked a non-issue to get mad ? The things and reason,the members have not true relationship Edited once, last by vivaliberta (Jul 27th 2022). While watching the video I was immediately struck by Shindong who did not match the usual physique of a Kpop idol. Personally, I think a lot of the hate is simply because they aren't young and trendy anymore and the fact that they are one of the older groups still left, It's OK though because it doesn't change the fact that they were part of the Hallyu wave and that's kinda legendary whether people want to admit it or not. this framing is spawned from their mature concepts, reputation as a gag group, and the fact that they were already past their activity peak when the new wave of kpop fans came in. If yall want to hate them just do it, dont have involve. So now we blaming idols for producers and casting choices. SJ Returns: PLAY The Unreleased Video Clips! So obviously I was not a kpop stan back then when suju was at its peak and it was still 2nd gen, and obviously I was not there to actually witness their "past issues". So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. Great post! A lot of those have come with apologies, some haven't, as is kpop tradition. However, the waitress insisted that for a party of 4 they are only willing for us to select 2 rijstafels and pay for 3 servings (as a "favour", because of the younger girl). Please understand that what I'm trying to explain here is what most knetz (primarily women) think. Yeesung, another member of Super Junior has stated that he thinks obese people are lazy. Although this online community for women doesn't have a good reputation, especially among K-pop fans, internet users think that it doesn't justify Heechul to swear and generalize the members. Technical Project Manager. Cheers. Really good read. when you keep getting over and over in scandal then there might be a reason to hate. Heechul then admitted that Kangin truly f*cked up and that he deserved all the criticism he is getting. Worth booking as it was busy. They had dishes with a range of spiciness for all palates. In fact since op is so young they should learn more about worldly matters if they dont want to end up being a close-minded bigot down the line. Many Korean actors will be enlisting in the military this year. 137. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. MY victory, one SYNK DIVE. Kyuhyun was a popular MC. I got a spicy beef dish, the beef was super tender and the spice and flavor combination was perfect. Its very disappointing that people in that have that much publicity are able to be that discriminative, but thats part of freedom of speech. He praised Taemin's androgynous looks, and that's what Taemin is known for. Super Junior 10th album ballad masterpiece! Emilie Autumn. Also Donghae said 'move, fuck' at the airport because fans were in his space. i do not support any of their actions. WimbledonSW19; Jan . to see you twist things just to fit your narrative just to hate on him for the less problematic things i saw this days, and it's not the first time i see you doing this, grow up -_-, I personally don't think this particular statement was that bad, of course he has made some problematic comments before, but I don't think this is one of those, without mentionning that you're a really sad person, making a thread about something so miniscule and then attacking people who tell you that you're making a big fuss out of nothing, if you can't handle comments about threads you make, you should stay away from doing thread -_-. He loves sports too. people used this same argument to defend trump with the tape video. This piqued my image and upon googling him I was appalled. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Just then, the male idol repeatedly made problematic remarks that made Korean netters' blood boil due to anger. i respect them as idols for their careers and success but don't respect them as persons for how many shit they did. so today i saw a post that had me really wondering: why are super junior THE acceptable target among kpop fans. [Heres a few girl groups I listened to in 2011 instead of Mr. #8. people in my circles seem legitimately surprised that ELF still exist, right before they turn judgmental. Donald Glover (Childish Gambino) Drew Barrymore. When I read the title I totally thought this band was going to be a band that had such a long career that you didnt know how it was perpetuated. 3. What I said or did would not be undone. We only took a few bites from the main dishes before we had realised we made the wrong decision. . 5) | [King of Kings' Challenge] (Ep. (LogOut/ It honestly disgusts me so much when I hear people fat shaming, especially when the person who is doing the shaming is fat. don't let this video make you wanna never listen to them, they have good music, and if it makes you happy, go for it. * i have beef with the word problematic. P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! Were my classmates a bunch of molesters? Super Junior Heechul is once again criticized by K-netizens following his remarks. bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. as an adult, i understand that some actions are more excusable than certain actions. I dont know, but considering the current state of affairs in the Korean music industry they might notreally have much of a career left. that ladys current issues to get a reason. Change). Super Junior member Shindong has drawn major online flak after his supposed commentary on Taemin's music video ' Advice ' went viral. im just leaving a reply here to let fans know to do proper research, since a good amount of OPs claims have been disproven by the affected parties. they've either apologized or received pushback, either internationally or from korean fans. Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty. Amsterdam Tourism Amsterdam Hotels Amsterdam Bed and Breakfast Amsterdam Vacation Rentals Flights to Amsterdam Aneka Rasa; Cho Kyu Hyun is a South Korean singer and actor. Fast forward to 2015 and he played a character who was openly okay with gay and shared many homoerotic scenes with his fellow cast member. Truly, utterly amazing. The restaurant is relatively big and seems to be short staffed with only 3 servers present. and our We were served what looked like cat meat in potato water and the satay (peanut sauce) closely resembled gunk. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If you would like to use all features of this site, it is mandatory to enable JavaScript. this framing of super junior is personal to a lot of people in this fandom. Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent. If Eun-woo talked about bullying? people need to stop doing that. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. A group of girls still tried it the first night. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. Super junior is problematic group. Moreover, we ended up with what looked not too different from the couple seated next to us. All Rights Reserved. 50. I always found it strange that people use sujus age to drag them SO OFTEN, especially with all that super senior stuffkyuhyun is literally the same age as changmin and I never see this argument being used against tvxq. Is he just a really good actor? The girl was there with . Twitter influence or not, thats still the bottom line of ops conclusion from this mess, which yeah ill still call out even if op is young. Providing a more global perspective would help you when discussing these posts, especially so that you contextualize the discussions appropriately in the terms they are created in, before zooming out and reviewing them from the American/Western perspective. before bts debuted namjoon was seen with braids and dreadlocks, june 2013 namjoon debuted with 4c hair to mimic the hair texture of black people, oct 2017 namjoon admitted to wanting to have this hair so he could look aggressive, june 25 2013 namjoon had the black english stunt on a radio show, august 19 2013 in a bangtan bomb the whole group sung along to the nword, march 13 2014 jimin called namjoon mori chief reffering to his skin tone trying to degrade him during their roasting session, march 21 2014 when performing shinoahs top namjoon said the nword, july 2014 during the american hustle life reality tv show jhope stated that he had to put on sunscreen so he wouldnt get tanned, december 2014 jimin was wearing a native american headpiece in wkorea magazine spread bts did, december 2014 yoongi was wearing red braids for their mama performance. Honestly Im at a lost of words for this group. aug. 2021 - jul. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. according to some GG stans that makes him a pedophile, Shindong chose Wendy as his ideal type in women because of her personality, according to some GG stans that's sexual harrassment, IMO it's perfectly ok not to like super junior, i myself don't like a lot of groups. Super Junior is a Korean band formed in 2005 under SM Entertainment. people like to throw out that term because it, 2. in this case, they know it's acceptable, 3. it provides some deniability. For more K-Pop news and updates, keep your tabs open here at KpopStarz. Korean Actors We Will Be Missing For The Next 2 Years. As I went through the year 2016, I came to think about that my words or behaviors , regardless of my intentions could cause troubles or hurt others feelings. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. and made headlines for being unfiltered and putting his foot in his mouth multiple times (but it was in a charming haha hes just silly kinda way). (Cont in thread) https://t.co/nbQxRuZqGC, Secondly, Heechul continued by expressing his support and close relationship with Bogyum, a Korean YouTuber who was known for being a misogynist. I truly didnt know that this was such a big problem within Kpop groups. What is the consensus on this Super Junior title? LMAO you again and your ex-suju fan agenda. ), jan. 2021 took pictures with a nazi statue, sinb said sowons name in her phone was kitler which is a combination between sowons name and hitler, on a variety show the members were seen mocking african hairstyles by twisting their hair and making noises. that pissed me off so much, gg stans use the words pedophile and harassment so loosely it's disgusting. Dita Von Teese. This is what irks me every time Shindong opens his mouth. It would have been interesting for you to show what the discourse is surrounding these issues in Korea in general, which is a country that tends to be very harsh when dealing with body types that deviate from what is decided to be acceptable. What is the consensus on this Super Junior title? A decade after their debut as a sub-unit, Super Junior-D&E have finally released their first full Korean album. Maybe he poorly phrased it, or perhaps the translation wasn't the best, as it tends to happen and lead. Simple: Anyway my time ignoring Super Junior was short lived when they released Mamacita (problematic yes I know) in 2014 and I realized I had accidentally liked two members of the group through other bodies of works theyve done. I think it is not a problem if the people have open-minded regarding that definition. Yoona said when she was trainee (13 yo teenager)leetuk call her pretty and wish married with her in futur Help wonyoung's mcing AAA 2022 is safe Makes sense that Siwon was in my nightmare earlier today, I did hear of that, people complain a lot, I though it was just some fuck up x director and sm love for white people, If she pulls this with new jeans its on sight. The fact that Super Junior isnt getting the respect they deserve as legends makes me so angry. did not see a single shawol complaining about that statement, Most shawols were focusing on the fact that Taemin showed up at Sshindong's house to check on his editing lol, People are making things up at this point. Have you looked into how these specific comments and statements played out in the nation itself? [Hidden Singer] (Ep. but yeah, shindong is hardly a pedophile. We heard that Amsterdam had good Indonesian food and decided to give it a go. 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