If I put myself at the top of my swing with left hand in waiters tray position and a flat right wrist and just let my natural swing fall.I always arrive with an open club face. Your previous content has been restored. Very interesting; my thoracic is trashed and not going to get better, and I've been considering this change myself. Hybrids: Honma TW747 22* / 25* Jim, you are technically correct, but since I know you, I will also with humor say, stop over-analyzing. , For a broader audience who wont study this in too much detail, the idea is to start the club centered to get the most symmetrical possible start with body and club alignments and best possible takeaway. herman do you have a video on pitching and chipping.i really enjoy your instruction.thanks for what u r doing for the golfer.also could u help me on the takeaway.i hear u say one piece and then i hear u say pivot.i have watched both numerous times and they seem to be different ways to take the club back.again thanks. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U[/url] XXIO X Series 5 Wood! Try to feel like this turning move starts at your left hip area as you are coming down in downswing. I'm a short stocky guy , I'm not sure exactly what you mean. But I can hit 100s of balls quite nicely in this set up but I know its fundamentally wrong and wellId rather not do it. Look at BrianL99's post. I checked, and indeed running a club from my chest though my belt buckle has the head touching my left leg as you demonstrated. Standing at attention, grasp the club in the left hand while holding the handle beside the left hip, clubhead resting squarely on the ground near left foot. I do have 1 question on the address you mention the golf shaft points at the belt buckle however there is a lot of info out there saying the shaft should point to left hip at address and if you look at top tour players like Rory McIlroy they do tend to have this lean of the shaft. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. What would be the best way to know exactly how they should be (for instance If I point my club straight out from my belt buckle to I maintain that exact angle in my wrists?) Ive been battling this for years trying to figure out what is the correct position from how I have my wrists either pointing down or or cocked too much please help:). Ironically, if I need to hit a high shot (say over a tree), I seem to make some of my best swings (I imagine it has to do with my setup and the need to get the ball up rather quickly). [/quote] [/b] I feel you are great instructor so I want to stay with your teaching entirely now. Could expectation management be key to lowering your scores? The thing I noticed about this setup was the left elbow pointed down towards my left hip as opposed to my more traditional setup where the left elbow points out between the left hip and target. In Photo 2 I'm using a credit card, which is thin enough to demand that you keep that left shoulder and upper arm connected to the torso, but light enough to not interfere with the swing. I generally recommend setting the feet just slightly wider than the hips so you see a slight flare to the legs like the trunk of a tree, but nothing too excessive. Ive tried to visualize an imaginary obstacle in front of me as I setup to the ball to see if I can get the same results, but it has not been particularly effective. But heres a question: say for a 9iron, the offset will leave the face of the club look closed (I am playing Mizuno JPX800 iron set), and its almost impossible to make it look square. My short arms relative to chest are a major issue, I can't get my left arm across my chest, too much space between left arm and chest, and then can't get right elbow in front of right hip,it bounces off my gut and upper chest.. Set the feet just barely wider than the hips, toes turned out about 5 degrees on each foot, and start to bow from the hip sockets as you also let the wrists drop. Among Boomer's timeless lessons was . I've tried that upright swing before, and it just doesn't feel comfortable. This gives me something to review and refresh. Look at my release article and video and go for a neutral grip and really train hard at getting your right forearm and hand to turn down and over through impact. Generally barrel-chested guys need to get the arms on top of the chest and then bend over more than average to clear the chest on the swing. I looked at this video and the gem of it is the left arm (tricep) on the left pectoral detail. You can post now and register later. Ball - pro v1x There are many guys on this board who would love to get a shorter backswing. Thanks for the comments, Mike. Your left hand should move down your left pant leg toward your left knee as it works inward. Place yourself in a balanced, athletic position, with the ball in the centre of the club face. Keep your back straight as you stick your tail out and keep your chin up to avoid a hunch back appearance. DGA3, February 3, 2016 in Instruction & Academy. [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 wood, Mitsubishi Diamana BF[/b][/color][/size] There is NO SPECIFIC PATTERN for broad chested golfers. Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. Was pumped to work at a professional golf tournament. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. Thanks for commenting Wayne. My chest is thicker than average and after laying my arms over my chest in the set up I have to bend over farther than normal in order to get my arms to hang freely. I dont think you are doing anything wrong. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. Funny thing was I used to have John Daly swing as a kid because I was skinny as a rail and now my swing looks like someone elses 1/2 or 3/4 swing. First, we need a great grip. Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. Much more like my old two-knuckle stance. Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0 Much appreciated! I was wondering if you set-up any differently with fairway woods and hybrids? First I must say you are one hell of an instructor. The shoulders ideally turn at 90-degrees to the top of the swing. Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58. [quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1386361482' post='8259595'] (Im left handed). Always helps to post a video as well, so people with a better understanding of the swing can comment. Because of this new position over the chest I fell my irons should be flatter in order not to bend too much. Irons: Honma TW-X6-11, Wedges: Honma TW-W4 54* / 58* If you are hitting it straight and getting a divot past the ball, keep going like you are. Or do you let wrists uncock as club falls to the ground? 2) As you said, simply learn to rotate forearms faster/sooner this is usually the #1 problem. Make sure: (1) Your left leg gently bumps the wall as you start down, and (2) the back of your left hand faces the wall as it comes down in front of. that's pretty big. Wishon 919 THI 11* 0.5* Open I'm 5'6' and about 175 pounds. Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* I dont like changing things just to look better the old saying if it aint broke, dont fix it comes to mind. I've been doing the limber 11 for the past few days, and will be starting an exercise/stretching routine at Fore Performance (a golf/fitness place near me) this coming Monday after a TPI assessment. Extend rear leg on the BS and shift to right leg. One more thing to pass on regarding getting yourself in the reverse K at setup. Next, attach the right hand to the club. It would feel very uncomfortable and put you in a more or less cramped position. This will raise your left hip and drop your right hip and knee. Heres how to setup correctly for a right-handed golfer. Jack Malzahn 336.457.1642. So if you want to fight through to a more conventional swing, your first goal has to be a solid grip and a solid release action. Unfortunately, just because the new changes are supposedly a better way to swing, it doesnt mean they will be easy to do or that they will work better initially. Kevin, my first thought is youve got to really identify your natural style. Anyway, short, stocky, old guy here. Hey David, glad to hear youve been Hermanized. Your setup helped a lot and I got to identify, using your T, that the leading edge of my club was actually 5 deg+ open all the time. I have been struggling greatly with my game over the last few years. If you each out instead of tilting, youll drop the glove. In 5 lessons Ben Hogan says that for a 5 iron the stance should be set apart with shoulder width. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. The problem all along has been the foundation. Your previous content has been restored. It's just that there are folks who advocate that the arms don't raise at all, that your hands go up by virtue of turning your shoulders on an incline, but this thought can be damaging to folks like you and me. Matt Smith Variety being the "spice of life" and all that, we are not created equal in all aspects. Melbourne Australia, Hey Michael. Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed. The only thing I always question now is how my wrists should be at set up. TFT Coach Display as a link instead, I'm 6"2 240lbs and former bodybuilder. Barrel-Chested. Its certainly ok to have the hands slightly in front of the ball at address. Hstead that line about being 215 and looking like you had AIDS just killed me. Ive noticed on the range that many people set up with the handle of the golf club positioned near their left thigh, or pointed toward the target, creating the appearance of the club leaning forward at address. That is what I do anyway, for what ever it is worth. But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Sign up here for our newsletter and you'll never slice a drive again. The left arm technique is huge. Good questions, best of luck on your game. Herman. Lol. There are a few reasons this might be happening. Hey Herman, Any attempt to roll your hands over is negated by having such a strong grip forearms are basically locked into that 3-knuckle position. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! Grips - Crossline cord I love almost all your vdeos but in this one Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) Distance? My big mis-hit is a push-slice or shank. Keep up the great work. Anyway, I have recently been looking at many more articles in an effort to get more distance, I am no slouch I have worked in the building industry all life and think I am reasonably fit for 58, I just stumbled on your videos and have watched them over and over and over in an effort to ingrain the moves, very interesting, properly explained and like what other people have said, no one has ever properly explained why and I was seriously thinking about quitting the game altogether, I am today going to try out all of what I have learned by watching your instruction and will keep you posted on the results, here is to hoping that at long last I have found someone who actually wants people to learn the game properly. I will report back. From the setup position with the clubhead resting on the ground at the center of the stance, simply shuffle over to the ball while maintaining setup posture. But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. I like Smocks swing too. Try playing it back to improve the path, although now the face will need to release quickly to make it in time. Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. I'm going to have to get one! The best bet is to maintain the natural slight S-curve of the spine that you have when standing looking straight ahead and then bow from hips. It was all "around." . I hated lifting weights though, but it was a necessary evil back then. Told Mrs. DGA3 about my post, and she teased me, saying, "They're going to think you are bragging about yourself!". Is it possible also have some videos talking about chipping & pitching? [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] These images compare the movement and position on the backswing and follow-through when you throw a golf ball, swing one-handed and then two-handed. Bow forward more at the hips if necessary. So ready to give up! Your arm simply goes back and through and nine times out of ten goes straight where you intended. My worry is that l am not hitting the ball as far more so my irons than my driver. Herman. I am 54 years young and have been on & off single figures for the last 10 years but when my swing goes south and i feel like a 40 handicapper I can usually find some pearls, like the one above about the left arm on top of the Left pec. Good question. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Also make sure your clubs are fitted for you. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. You will be farther from the ball and some barrel-chested guys prefer shorter clubs. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) Bowing over more from the hips in the setup will allow a little more room for the arm to sit on top of chest and still comfortably hang to the ball. I will report back Really great explanations of the mechanics and cause/effect of doing things right or wrong. Cross your hands over your chest so your opposite hands touch opposite shoulders. See What Members Are Saying! That sucks. FEMALE golfer (LEFT-HANDED) . My lower back is on it's last legs. One setup issue a I struggle with is spine tilt. While working on getting my left arm on top of my pec, I was neglecting what I was doing to grip the club with my right hand. Sounds like you suck your arms inside , so they have no where to go . I also pivot better if I flare both feet out quite a bit, especially the front foot. If not, click, Next, well add to the setup by talking about, Golf Lag: Stop Casting, Lag like Tiger Woods. One-Piece is a term used to describe moving the hands, arms and club as a single unit with no hinge in the early phases of backswing. If the lead arm is sitting on the side of the body, the chest is in the way of starting a proper takeaway and backswing. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Always need good footwork and posture. Plenty of Youtube vids of both to check out. yup, great stretches. 75K views 10 years ago Golf Swing Tips and Drills A great exercise to feel the correct body turn in the golf swing. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. Then as the club is swung down the chest should be pointing again pretty much straight forward. Fred. (Lefty) what are the positions and or movements that my wrists/forearms should make to have a square club face at impact? The tendency with the forward press is to struggle to align to the target and square the clubface in the setup. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. Also upright is super comfortable for me because I have more room but it's not nearly as consistent and I tend to hit a lot more bad shots with hard to control distance because I'm so steep, Titleist TSR3 8* / Fuji Ventus Black TR 6X, Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 18* / Veylix Rome 988X, Edel SMS iron 4-5 / DG TI X100 ///// SMS PRO irons 6-PW / DG TI X100. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. The left arm over the left chest was the issue. Maybe there are golfers (on Tour?) [/quote] I meant closed stance in my post. Hope this helps you can always sign-up for an online lesson if you have a way to send me some video. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. I still have a lot of work to go but I feel more interested in golf now than ever. If it was Now for the Back Nine would be a very short book. Hi Herman, I tried your suggestion on putting the ball in front no matter what kind of iron I am grabbing. Both nice looking golf swings, IMO. I usually see a lot of slouching in my clientele with lots of forward shoulder rounding especially in adult men beyond 30 years of age. I hit about 500 balls a week but feel I bring a different swing every outing. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. who have a similar problem - maybe even somebody who has a video I could watch. What I now realize is that turning my left arm to the two-knuckle grip position naturally gets my left arm on top of the pec and helps tuck the right should in as well, freeing up my back-swing. If thats correct then having the handle point at belt buckle usually works out to be a good shaft/wrist angle. My results were exactly what you described in the videoshoulders tilting in the wrong direction and a bad outside-in swing. [/quote] I assume you mean how high the hands should be at address. [/quote] Right now, you're chunking golf shots because the low point of your swing happens before you reach the ball. But, my shoulders are not nor are my ankles, too many injuries. It should feel like your right arm scrapes your left hip coming down and then turn the back of your right hand down toward the ground. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! You should know why you do everything in your swing. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. Big hello from Texas. For lie angle you must get checked hitting a shot from a lie board as the dynamics of swinging often look different than the setup positions. Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. Thanks Jean. This has been a struggle. Yes, the word Fanny can be used in a different context here in Oz but I dont believe anyone would be offended. Kind regards Rob. When bowing toward the ball, do you retain wrist cock as when held at belt buckle height? Its very easy to stand up and rotate flat in the backswing. GIVEAWAY! Now I am 45lbs over weight, but plan to start working out after Thanksgiving lol. Ive really enjoyed your videos, particularly the recommendation to weaken my right hand grip.
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